Over an Email, Host.net in Boca Raton abruptly cuts off service to long-term client

For fear that Host.net will attempt to sue us for putting up our opinion of their service, I make this disclaimer that this is our opinion of the service we received from the company.  It is not intended to stop you from using their services.  It is intended to express our experiences so you can make wise business decisions.

  A few days ago I told you of another incident we had with Host.net.  I think this is one that is definitely worthy of sharing.  This relates to their President, Jeffrey Davis. Three times over three months, we received spam mail from host.net.  Each time, it included an email list of all their customers.  We emailed them notifying them that someone in their company was sending out emails with their entire customer list.  We thought telling them was the right thing to do.  We received no response to our efforts to notify them. About six months later we decided to contact their clients about our web development services, a service Host.net does not provide.  I made absolutely sure the email was written so there would be no conflict of interest.  I read and re-read the email for over 4 hours.  We had, what I thought, was a long and mutually respectful relationship with Host.net, and I had no intention of taking any business from them.  I writing the email, I wanted to be perfectly clear that we had our servers on the same network, and that it would be easy for us to work with them should they want us to do some web development.  We also said that if they were ever thinking of leaving Host.net, for whatever reason, we indicated in one simple sentence that we could provide them with services on the same network, to avoid any disruption, and that Host.net would not lose the bandwidth, a win-win situation.  I send out only 100 emails of the 1,100 or so that were on the list, just to make sure all was OK.

 Two things happened.  While sending the first 100 emails,  I quickly received two emails from disgruntled Host.net client where one told me that he was told that as a small client, they were not going to give him the level of service he needed, and that he found another company.  And, ten minutes after the test mailing was done, a Mr. Jeffrey Davis, the President of Host.net, called our company and instantly went ballistic.  It appeared he had his own client list seeded with in-house email addresses.   Jeffrey Davis began our business conversation, literally screaming at me on the telephone.  As unprofessional as that sounds, and taken by total surprise, it really happened.  I tried to calm him down and assure him that there was absolutely no intention of taking any business from Host.net, but he would have none of my words, mumbling at times in what appeared to me as a man who was angry and out of control.

 He began his ranting by informing me that he instructed the Host.net security department to take all of our servers offline.  This was verified by our Systems Administrator walking into my office during the conversation to inform me that we were offline.  Jeffrey Davis said “You are now out of business, and if you want to be online again, deal with our attorney”.   As abruptly as the conversation began with his screaming, it ended the same way.  The conversation lasted 45 seconds.  Now, how is that for putting their long-term client, AdultChamber and Online Technologies, into to frenzy?  We sweated and scrambled.  Called their attorney and explained, in detail, how we had no intention of harming Host.net in any way whatsoever.  We called Mr. Lenny Chasal, Executive Vice President, who told us he could not talk to us about this matter.  Well, it was back and forth with their Attorney, who told me that “Jeffrey can lose his cool and over-react”.  Well, it took until 9:00pm for the attorney to get us paperwork to sign.  Every time we anxiously called, we were told my his secretary that he was with a client and that he would get to our matter just as soon as he could.  Clearly at that point we would have signed anything to get our clients back online.  One would have to assume that Host.net [and their attorney] knew it.

 Then we called the company after,  under duress, the papers were signed, we immediately called support and their technician on duty told us he was not authorized to bring us back online, and that his Supervisor went home.  I told him I was driving over there, now, since all of our clients were offline, including a huge Neurological organization , which we maintain their web server and all their associated email accounts.  The technician had his Supervisor call me from his home, and we were online at 10:00pm.

  A week later, we needed to address a hard drive issue on a server and needed to be at the machine at the network center.  Guess what happened when get arrived?  Our door security keys no longer worked! This forced us to drive 20 minutes to their main office at 3500 NW Boca Raton Blvd, Boca Raton, Florida 33431, from their network center in Delray Beach, and have it re-coded.

  To add insult to injury, when we finally got back to the network center and opened the secure door with our re-coded Host.net pass key, the combination to the door of our rack cage was also reset, causing us even more frustration.  We shrugged it off as additional punishment, but the distaste for Host.net never left.

  Like I said in my last post, if you are interested in doing business with Host.net in Boca Raton,  Ft. Lauderdale, Delray Beach,  or wherever, our personal opinion is to keep shopping.  I guarantee you that even if you do not have any of the horror events we experienced, you will be paying thousands of dollars if you do not notify them MORE THAN 60 days prior to the anniversary of your contract, that you are leaving.  And, you better be able to do something no one I know if capable of, moving multiple servers just a few days prior to the end of the contract year.  If not, YOU PAY thousands of dollars for not adhering to the letter of the contract.

  Working with Host.net was an amazing and expensive adventure.  It was very painful at times and worst of all, massively time consuming from a labor standpoint.  If I get a chance, I will talk about another Host.net event.  It’s about overbilling by thousands upon thousands of dollars, following their refusal to help us mitigate a server attack by simply giving us the affected server’s IP address.  And, if we were not careful when we initially entered into the contract with them, they would have had the opportunity to force us to pay thousands upon thousands of dollars; an amount they billed us, then threatened to turn us off again, until we went into our files and proved to them that they agreed to a clause in the agreement.

 I end this post with this thought.  Never once did we feel that Host.net cared for one second if our business succeeded.  They are the first hosting facility we used since 1993 that only cared about one thing, getting as much money out of us as they could, whenever they could.  That is how we felt!

 Next episode to follow shortly…

Marc Laffer,
President
Online Technologies



Host.net in Boca Raton, Florida
The worst experience ever!
An ongoing sage of Misery

For fear that Host.net will attempt to sue us for putting up our opinion of their service, I make this disclaimer that this is our opinion of the service we received from the company. It is not intended to stop you from using their services. It is intended to express our experiences so you can make wise business decisions.

We have been in the online business since 1990. In 1993, we starting using network centers to host multiple web servers, and every company provided us with professional services. When Host.net in Boca Raton, who services Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, West Palm Beach and all the towns in the area acquired Web United, where our servers were located, they started the relationship with us based on what we feel was absolute deceit. How? We were asked to move all of our servers to a new location, which we did, over a weekend. Everyone knows how difficult that can be and how disruptive it can be for our clients. Then, after the servers were moved, we were immediately notified that we were no longer with WebUnited.net, we were with Host.net. They know this all along and told us that it was not in our interest to know it before we moved the servers. So started the absolute worst business experience we can even begin to describe.

Screw you in the end?

Let’s start with the end… There is small print in their contract that says that if you do not notify them, by certified mail, in EXCESS of 60 days prior to the annual anniversary of the agreement, they automatically renew the agreement for one year and you are responsible for a full year of service, even if you do not use it. Remember, when you leave them, for whatever reason, they will attempt to collect every month you are not with Host.net, until the anniversary of the contract. So, let’s say you are paying $2,000 a month for a rack with bandwidth. You sign up with Host.net in June. Let’s say you stay with them for two and half years and you need to close down your business, move your business and need to move your servers closer to your new office, etc. It is now December. Guess what? Even though you paid all your bills to them, on time, they will make every legal attempt to collect $12,000 from you, even though you told them you needed to leave. Now, imagine you are the System Administrator and maybe the company’s Webmaster who recommended Host.net of Boca Raton? How are you going to explain this away? This is what is happening to us, right now. Different figures but the same thing…And, there are more stories we have to tell. Soon I will tell you how Host.net of Boca Raton and Deerfield Beach abruptly cut off our service, started screaming at us on the phone, all for sending an innocent email they did not like. You got it, cut off our service at 4:00pm and forced us to sign something, allowing us to stay online and in business.Then I will tell of how they refused to tell us which server of ours, on our full rack, was eating excessive bandwidth. They refused to tell us the IP of the server, forcing us to the network center to do a diagnostic that they could have solved.Recommendation: If you are thinking of using Host.net, keep shopping before making your final decision. Our experience was nothing short of a nightmare. And we know of another company going through the exact same thing as we are going through, trying to cut the ties from Host.net of Boca Raton, Florida.Marc Laffer, President
AdultChamber.com - Online Technologies



Exhibit - [Exxxotica NewYork] - September 25-27, 2009

If you have a product or service, and you are currently not planning to exhibit at ExxxoticaNewYork, you are making a grave mistake! This is the time to re-evaluate your plans.

With ExxxoticaMiamiBeach a smashing success, and last year’s first ExxxoticaNewYork show beyond belief, missing this show is a mistake!

You can bet that over 20,000 people will be attendance, and again there will be national exposure. AdultChamber was there last year, as was HotMovies . Yes, AdultChamber is returning, and so is HotMovies. R ight now is the time to plan for this fabulous NY area show! If you want to exhibit and plan your trip, the closest local NY area airport is NEWARK, New Jersey. And, the flights are really cheap.

Booth space is very economical for this September 25-27 show. The show will be at the same successful venue as last year; The New Jersey Expo Center in Edison. Last year practically every New York area TV and Radio station picked up on the show, and the crowds never stopped. When I say there were over 20,000 people in attendance, I mean it. The traffic never stopped!

Take one minute of your time… Sit back and consider getting a booth. Their booth space is not expensive. Here is some info that may help you decide:
Sales Kit:CLICK HERE
New York Floor Plan: CLICK HERE


If you have big plans for exhibiting, they NEGOTIATE!

The show staff knows www.AdultChamber.com. ExxxoticaNewYork is a show you should not miss if you want to meet real hot Adult Consumer Traffic!
Here is some additional contact info: Phone:(215) 462-8800 E-mail:info@vtshows.com

InterNEXT SUMMER Expo Shocks Everyone…

 

  With the economy the way it is, everyone was wondering how the InterNext show would fare, being at the huge Western Diplomat in Hollywood, Florida.  I write this the day after the show, tired and literally worn out.  So, clearly you can get a hint from my condition that the show was far from being what the cynics thought it would be.  Actually, it was the exact opposite.

  

  Let’s see if I can put this into perfectly understandable terms.  The InterNext show was exactly what they said it would be on their website www.InterNext-Expo.com, it was a smashing success.  First we need to talk about the InterNext AVN staff who made it their business to help us get situated; Renee Johnson, Megan Sheehan, and Chris Lebrun.  They were great.  They made themselves available when needed, and if they did not get the message personally from me, let me take this time, on behalf of the businesses that exhibited at the show, THANKS!

  

  Here is what happened in a nutshell… The weather was PERFECT!  The sun was shining and the beach was beautiful.  Everyone seemed to hand around the resort’s huge swimming pool, where businesses had cabanas and tons of food.  If anyone put a hand in their pocket for food, it was only because they did not keep their eyes off the bikini-clad girls and take a few minutes to stroll into the cabanas.

  

The MEET & GREET

   There is no question; the webmasters in attendance were there to do business.  Yes they frolicked in the pool, participated in the contests, and soaked up the rays, but InterNext had a SURPRISE for everyone; bring us all together to discuss BUSNESS.   They called it a MEET & GREET.  At 5:00pm a grand ballroom filled up with both vendors and attendees.  The room was packed with vendors displaying at simple draped tables, and giving away literally tons of give-a-ways.   The room was huge.  The MEET and GREET was supposed to end at 7:00pm.  That did not happen.  It was funny when I saw the hotel staff arrive at 7:00pm to clean up and quickly realizing no one was leaving.  There was a wealth of business being discussed and few left at the 7:00pm ending time.   Clearly, the InterNext staff brought everyone back to focus with this Meet & Greet function; allowing additional businesses to acquire a table and interact with everyone in attendance. 

The nighttime parties can be best described by me from comments made at the AdultChamber Internext Cabana, following my question “Did you enjoy the parties last night?”.  Here are some responses: “Marc, I had the time of my life.”, “Let’s just say, I stayed up later than I have in years.  What a fantastic time!”.

    Saturday had us working at the AdultChamber Cabana where we were so busy, it was difficult to enjoy the food that was being shared with everyone.  Being on the 2nd floor overlooking the pool, it was pure eye candy, mixed with business.  I’m still smiling.
    As a businessman, there is one thing I must say to all those who decided to put off exhibiting this summer at InterNext, it was an opportunity passed.  Not only did we get the chance to meet a wealth of webmasters, we intermingled with other exhibitors and made deals with handshakes.  The list of those connections can go on and on but the fact that we crossed paths with so many of our current clients, as well as having understandings with other, well, I can only say that missing InterNext would have been a huge mistake on our part.  

   Marc Laffer,

PresidentAdultChamber.com



AdultChamber is here to help you with our business decisions

What type of webmaster, and website, owner are you?
Do you say “I would have… I could have… I should have…“? -Or-,
Do you say “I did it, and that is why I am succeeding this year“?

Well, the July 4th weekend is over, and now it’s time to think about BUSINESS. InterNext is coming up in exactly 30 days, and it is not too late to make plans.

I just did some of your homework…I went to Expedia.com and I searched flights into Ft. Lauderdale, which, in golf terminology, is a 7-Iron from the InterNext show. Here is what I came up with from three major cities:
Chicago - Ft. Laudersdale - August 6th - From $210.00 round trip
LAX - Ft. Laudersdale - August 6th - From $258.00 round trip
New York (LGA) - Ft. Laudersdale - August 6th - From $209.00 round trip

It’s happening August 7-9. MAKE PLANS, Today! Do you personally know the top guys at eMerchantPay, PussyCash, ProfitX, Black Label Ads, DatingGold and CashDorado? These are the pros in our industry today… These are the show’s top sponsors, AdultChamber.com has been doing business with three of them for years?

INTERNEXT EXPO - AUGUST 7-9 - WESTIN DIPLOMAT RESORT & SPA

HOLLYWOOD, FL WWW.INTERNEXT-EXPO.COM

Internext is THE most popular, and one of THE most well attended adult digital industry shows. It’s at the Diplomat Resort , on the beach; a true resort and business vacation. TO: BUSINESS OWNERS, AFFILIATE PROGAM DIRECTORS, and everyone who needs to be shoulder to shoulder with the Adult Webmaster - It is not too late to get a Cabana by the pool and show everyone what you offer. Everything happens at the pool area; everything. The last place you want to be, is home, waiting for email and the phone to ring. There is nothing like meeting webmasters, face-to-face in an environment that is totally unique to doing business and forging long-term business relationships.TO: ADULT WEBMASTERS: When you attend InterNext as a webmaster, you will be meeting THE industry professionals, and you will be making deals, as well as forging business relationships. Meet webmasters face-to-face, shake their hands, drink and party together. The staff at InterNext is standing by to answer all your questions. InterNext is where AdultChamber, eMerchantPay, PussyCash, and all the pros go to do BUSINESS! The staff at Internext are wonderful to work with. Keep in mind, the Internext Expo is exactly 30 days away; pick up the telephone and call them now at 818.718.5788 Ext.161. or email chris.lebrun@avn.com. For a full list of exhibit, sponsorship and advertising options, visit: http://Internext-Expo.com/Sponsor.html Remember, there is nothing like making a deal by voice… Give them a call!

The air fares are CHEAP, the Hotel is a true resort, the weather is perfect, and the beach and golf are second-to-none!

Need to reach the adult webmaster? www.Adultchamber.com is here. Put up a display ad and you will get leads. Contact me at 561-226-2530 or by email at Pres@AdultChamber.com.

Marc Laffer, President
Online Technologies
7759 La Corniche Circle, Boca Raton, FL 33433
Voice: 1-561/226-2530 Fax: 1-561/226-2543